{"id":258,"date":"2005-01-12T20:43:28","date_gmt":"2005-01-12T20:43:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.docbug.com\/blog\/archives\/258"},"modified":"2005-01-12T20:43:28","modified_gmt":"2005-01-12T20:43:28","slug":"update-on-art-optics","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.docbug.com\/blog\/archives\/258","title":{"rendered":"Update on Art &#038; Optics"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" STYLE=\"padding:  5px 5px 5px 5px\" src=\"http:\/\/docbug.com\/blog\/archives\/258\/albergati.jpg\" alt=\"Portrait of Cardinal Niccol\u00f2 Albergati\" align=\"right\" \/>  <\/p>\n<p>Some time ago I <a href=\"http:\/\/docbug.com\/blog\/archives\/000008.html\">posted<\/a> about the ongoing debate between David Hockney and our Cheif Scientist, <a href=\"http:\/\/rii.ricoh.com\/~stork\/\">David Stork<\/a>, about whether the great painters of the 15th century &#8220;cheated&#8221; by secretly using optical devices like the camera obscura. Hockney thinks the realism one suddenly sees in paintings around 1430 <a href=\"http:\/\/webexhibits.org\/hockneyoptics\/\">proves that such devices were used<\/a>, even though no record of them can be found (they were secret, remember?). Stork thinks it&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/webexhibits.org\/hockneyoptics\/post\/stork.html\">hogwash<\/a>, and has both proposed numerous ways the realism could have been acheived using technology known to exist at the time and pointed out reasons the optical techniques Hockney proposes wouldn&#8217;t have worked anyway.<\/p>\n<p>Now the New Scientist is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newscientist.com\/channel\/info-tech\/mg18524826.400\">reporting<\/a> that evidence of one alternative technology Stork suggested has been found:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Separate findings will be published in March by Thomas Ketelsen, a curator at the Museum of Prints, Drawings and Manuscripts in Dresden, Germany. Hockney has argued that the similarity between Jan van Eyck&#8217;s drawing Portrait of Niccol\u00f2 Albergati and a larger oil painting of the same name could only have been achieved using optical projections. But using a microscope, Ketelsen has found evidence of previously unseen pinpricks in the drawing &#8211; suggesting the copying method was mechanical, not optical. He suggests that a type of reducing compass called a &#8220;reductionzirkel&#8221; might have been used.<\/p>\n<p>Falco points out that the pinpricks could have been made 50 years after van Eyck&#8217;s death by someone wishing to copy it, or even 500 years after. &#8220;Holes can&#8217;t be carbon dated,&#8221; he says. But Stork thinks the mounting evidence can&#8217;t be ignored. &#8220;The evidence doesn&#8217;t support Hockney,&#8221; he says.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The debate is fascinating,&#8221; Hockney says. &#8220;But it cannot end just because someone found pinpricks.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Hockney&#8217;s argument was never strong to begin with, but it&#8217;s starting to sound like he&#8217;s join the ranks of creationists, alien abduction followers and conspiracy nuts. If so, he may as well have ended his last sentence after the fourth word&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" STYLE=\"padding:  5px 5px 5px 5px\" src=\"http:\/\/docbug.com\/blog\/archives\/258\/albergati.jpg\" alt=\"Portrait of Cardinal Niccol\u00f2 Albergati\" align=\"right\" \/>  <\/p>\n<p>Some time ago I <a href=\"http:\/\/docbug.com\/blog\/archives\/000008.html\">posted<\/a> about the ongoing debate between David Hockney and our Cheif Scientist, <a href=\"http:\/\/rii.ricoh.com\/~stork\/\">David Stork<\/a>, about whether the great painters of the 15th century &#8220;cheated&#8221; by secretly using optical devices like the camera obscura. Hockney thinks the realism one suddenly sees in paintings around 1430 <a href=\"http:\/\/webexhibits.org\/hockneyoptics\/\">proves that such devices were used<\/a>, even though no record of them can be found (they were secret, remember?). Stork thinks it&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/webexhibits.org\/hockneyoptics\/post\/stork.html\">hogwash<\/a>, and has both proposed numerous ways the realism could have been acheived using technology known to exist at the time and pointed out reasons the optical techniques Hockney proposes wouldn&#8217;t have worked anyway.<\/p>\n<p>Now the New Scientist is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newscientist.com\/channel\/info-tech\/mg18524826.400\">reporting<\/a> that evidence of one alternative technology Stork suggested has been found:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Separate findings will be published in March by Thomas Ketelsen, a curator at the Museum of Prints, Drawings and Manuscripts in Dresden, Germany. Hockney has argued that the similarity between Jan van Eyck&#8217;s drawing Portrait of Niccol\u00f2 Albergati and a larger oil painting of the same name could only have been achieved using optical projections. But using a microscope, Ketelsen has found evidence of previously unseen pinpricks in the drawing &#8211; suggesting the copying method was mechanical, not optical. He suggests that a type of reducing compass called a &#8220;reductionzirkel&#8221; might have been used.<\/p>\n<p>Falco points out that the pinpricks could have been made 50 years after van Eyck&#8217;s death by someone wishing to copy it, or even 500 years after. &#8220;Holes can&#8217;t be carbon dated,&#8221; he says. But Stork thinks the mounting evidence can&#8217;t be ignored. &#8220;The evidence doesn&#8217;t support Hockney,&#8221; he says.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The debate is fascinating,&#8221; Hockney says. &#8220;But it cannot end just because someone found pinpricks.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Hockney&#8217;s argument was never strong to begin with, but it&#8217;s starting to sound like he&#8217;s join the ranks of creationists, alien abduction followers and conspiracy nuts. If so, he may as well have ended his last sentence after the fourth word&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-258","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-media-technology"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.docbug.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/258","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.docbug.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.docbug.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.docbug.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.docbug.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=258"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.docbug.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/258\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.docbug.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=258"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.docbug.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=258"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.docbug.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=258"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}